Comments on: Siachen Glacier is well inside Pakistani Territory http://www.siachenglacier.com/siachen-glacier-is-well-inside-pakistani-territory/ Siachen Glacier: Pristine beauty, and the war at the top of the world Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:02:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Facts Not Fiction http://www.siachenglacier.com/siachen-glacier-is-well-inside-pakistani-territory/comment-page-1/#comment-16776 Facts Not Fiction Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:02:45 +0000 http://www.siachenglacier.com/siachen-glacier-is-well-inside-pakistani-territory/#comment-16776 "American, British, European & Japanese mountain climbers have always asked permission from the Pakistani Government to climb Siachen Glacier and its surrendering areas." Funny, The Chief of Staff of the US Army, General George Casey on October 17, 2008 visited the Siachen Glacier along with Indian Army Chief, General Deepak Kapoor. Probably General Casey was unaware that it was the Pakis who issued the permits! Lol! “American, British, European & Japanese mountain climbers have always asked permission from the Pakistani Government to climb Siachen Glacier and its surrendering areas.”

Funny, The Chief of Staff of the US Army, General George Casey on October 17, 2008 visited the Siachen Glacier along with Indian Army Chief, General Deepak Kapoor. Probably General Casey was unaware that it was the Pakis who issued the permits! Lol!

]]> By: Historianish http://www.siachenglacier.com/siachen-glacier-is-well-inside-pakistani-territory/comment-page-1/#comment-16569 Historianish Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:01:31 +0000 http://www.siachenglacier.com/siachen-glacier-is-well-inside-pakistani-territory/#comment-16569 Well! Reading comments from indian side i just get the idea how people are happy on having no man’s land, while they ever think about 5000 families who lost their beloved ones. War is drug which ruin nations. Both countries are paying huge price on the cost of sufferings and miseries of their people. Buying unlimited emo from westerns and wasting human lives and resources is very clearable thing for some idiots howling here. They can’t climb up and you can’t go down, that’s a deadlock which can’t be solved by war or wars. The only solution is peaceful several rounds of dialogues. The it can’t be derailed by western supported Mumbai attacks or any other tragedy. Well! Reading comments from indian side i just get the idea how people are happy on having no man’s land, while they ever think about 5000 families who lost their beloved ones. War is drug which ruin nations. Both countries are paying huge price on the cost of sufferings and miseries of their people. Buying unlimited emo from westerns and wasting human lives and resources is very clearable thing for some idiots howling here. They can’t climb up and you can’t go down, that’s a deadlock which can’t be solved by war or wars. The only solution is peaceful several rounds of dialogues. The it can’t be derailed by western supported Mumbai attacks or any other tragedy.

]]> By: Lost to India-Pakistan http://www.siachenglacier.com/siachen-glacier-is-well-inside-pakistani-territory/comment-page-1/#comment-13187 Lost to India-Pakistan Wed, 23 Jun 2010 07:55:15 +0000 http://www.siachenglacier.com/siachen-glacier-is-well-inside-pakistani-territory/#comment-13187 Hi, I am someone in India who feels creation of Pakistan out of India is the biggest mistake. It is time that the youth of today demand it's reunion, Pakistanis are like my own people and we are no different than them, all we need is to form a channel and box our opinions together. Hi,

I am someone in India who feels creation of Pakistan out of India is the biggest mistake. It is time that the youth of today demand it’s reunion, Pakistanis are like my own people and we are no different than them, all we need is to form a channel and box our opinions together.

]]> By: Kaiser Hameed Khan http://www.siachenglacier.com/siachen-glacier-is-well-inside-pakistani-territory/comment-page-1/#comment-12784 Kaiser Hameed Khan Sun, 20 Jun 2010 19:30:56 +0000 http://www.siachenglacier.com/siachen-glacier-is-well-inside-pakistani-territory/#comment-12784 I am sure no one knows that the control Line at Siachin had not been defined i.e there was no border marked by the bounndary commission!The roots of the conflict over Siachen lie in the non-demarcations on the western side of the map beyond a grid point known as NJ 9842.It only said after point 9842 the line follows the line of the Glaciers presumably because in all honesty both the Indians and Pakistanis thought this area was not worth fighting.The Siachen Glacier region, where no fighting had taken place, was left un-delineated, and no attempt was made to clarify the position of the LoC beyond NJ 9842. The LoC was merely described as moving from Nerlin (inclusive to India), Brilman (inclusive to Pakistan), up to Chorbat La in the Turtok sector. India is determined to keep the Glacier since its northern mountains divide the Central Asia and the Indian sub-continent. Whoever owns the Glacier controls the Shyok and Nubra valleys, as well as the region bordering China. India fears that Pakistan's control of the Glacier would endanger the security of Ladakh in particular and the state of Jammu & Kashmir in general. The Indians further believe that China and Pakistan want to occupy the Siachen to secure a common border with China to facilitate a closer military link. No doubt Neta Ji, Subhas Chandra Bose could have turned the tide of events in the subcontinent but who got him killed? My grandfather Colonel Abdul Aziz Tajik was also a member of INA and a close associate of Neta Ji,unfortunately like some politicians in Pakistan India also had its share of wolves in sheeps skins who got Netaji killed.the crash in which he was reported killed never occured and his companions mostly muslim officers lived. The question now is how can we understand each other now? only through truch, honesty and open arms not through emotionalism and anger which shall draw us closer to another Siachin and sorrow I am sure no one knows that the control Line at Siachin had not been defined i.e there was no border marked by the bounndary commission!The roots of the conflict over Siachen lie in the non-demarcations on the western side of the map beyond a grid point known as NJ 9842.It only said after point 9842 the line follows the line of the Glaciers presumably because in all honesty both the Indians and Pakistanis thought this area was not worth fighting.The Siachen Glacier region, where no fighting had taken place, was left un-delineated, and no attempt was made to clarify the position of the LoC beyond NJ 9842. The LoC was merely described as moving from Nerlin (inclusive to India), Brilman (inclusive to Pakistan), up to Chorbat La in the Turtok sector.
India is determined to keep the Glacier since its northern mountains divide the Central Asia and the Indian sub-continent. Whoever owns the Glacier controls the Shyok and Nubra valleys, as well as the region bordering China. India fears that Pakistan’s control of the Glacier would endanger the security of Ladakh in particular and the state of Jammu & Kashmir in general. The Indians further believe that China and Pakistan want to occupy the Siachen to secure a common border with China to facilitate a closer military link.
No doubt Neta Ji, Subhas Chandra Bose could have turned the tide of events in the subcontinent but who got him killed? My grandfather Colonel Abdul Aziz Tajik was also a member of INA and a close associate of Neta Ji,unfortunately like some politicians in Pakistan India also had its share of wolves in sheeps skins who got Netaji killed.the crash in which he was reported killed never occured and his companions mostly muslim officers lived.
The question now is how can we understand each other now? only through truch, honesty and open arms not through emotionalism and anger which shall draw us closer to another Siachin and sorrow

]]> By: ajay http://www.siachenglacier.com/siachen-glacier-is-well-inside-pakistani-territory/comment-page-1/#comment-9049 ajay Mon, 31 May 2010 11:50:31 +0000 http://www.siachenglacier.com/siachen-glacier-is-well-inside-pakistani-territory/#comment-9049 ciachian is totaly indian land jai hind ciachian is totaly indian land
jai hind

]]> By: samuel lohri http://www.siachenglacier.com/siachen-glacier-is-well-inside-pakistani-territory/comment-page-1/#comment-7120 samuel lohri Sun, 23 May 2010 06:46:22 +0000 http://www.siachenglacier.com/siachen-glacier-is-well-inside-pakistani-territory/#comment-7120 A British Army officer (a Western mole in Kashmiri Hindu King's military) led the Pakistani invasion of Kashmir in 1947 to make sure India, a socialist country (India) does not get a direct link with Communist Soviet Union. Ever since then Western countries have used Pakistan to disturb India. Pakistanis never understand that they are just beA British Army officer (a Western mole in Kashmiri Hindu King's military) led the Pakistani invasion of Kashmir in 1947 to make sure India, a socialist country (India) does not get a direct link with Communist Soviet Union. Ever since then Western countries have used Pakistan to disturb India. Pakistanis never understand that they are just being used against the enemies of the West. Pakistan lost three battles one after the other using superior western arms, money, and advise. Still they donot understand. It is time to integrate our great nations back into integrated India (Hindutan) like it was before British invasion of India. It is time to be brothers and sisters. It is time to stop terror operations and being afraid of each other. Siachen is not the issue. Pakistan must stop from being used to stop India, Soviets, and others. If East Germany and West Germany can unite to become one nation called Germany, India and Pakistan can also unite to become one nation called Hindustan/India. As for Sicachen, India will soon build outsourcing copmputer centers in Siachen like in Bangalore. Pakistani and Indian software engineers will build next generation software for American and European companies companies. God willing, whether you call Allah or Vishnu or Shiva, days are not too far when South Asia will lead in software engineering, Bioengineering, and other high tech areas in the world. And who knows, the thrust may come from a unied India's biggest pride the Jammu and Kashmir, Siachen Glacier, and Kharakoram Pass. How long can they keep us seperate? After all we look the same, we eat the same spice, we talk the same languages, ... we are the same people kept seperated by the wishes of the West. Brothers and Sisters of Pakistan, come join us in the journey to real prosperity. Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose during second world war formed the first Indian National Army (INA) to fight the British. Most of his Generals and top military commanders were Muslims. If Subhas Bose would be alive, there will be no India and Pakistan because British would have been forcibly driven out of united India by INA. Again, brothers and sisterts of Pakistan, come and join hands. United we, will show the world what we can do. Who care whose is Siachen. The whole of South Asia is ours. We the people, Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs, Buddishts... own this great land of Ashoka, Chanakya... Even Great Alexander the Great could not conqour us! We are one and only one.ing used against the enemies of the West. Pakistan lost three battles one after the other using superior western arms, money, and advise. Still they donot understand. It is time integrate our great nations back into integrated India (Hindutan) like it was before British invasion of India. It is time to be brothers and sisters. It is time to stop terror operations and being afraid of each other. Siachen is not the issue. Pakistan must stop from being used to stop India, Soviets, and others. If East German and West Germany can unite to become one nation called Germany, India and Pakistan can also unite to become one nation called Hindustan/India. As for Sicachen, India will soon build outsourcing copmputer centers in Siachen like in Bangalore. Pakistani and Indian software engineers will build next generation software for American and European companies companies. God willing, whether you call Allah or Vishnu or Shiva, days are not too far when South Asia will lead in software engineering, Bioengineering, and other high tech areas in the world. And who knows, the thrust may come from a unied India's biggest pride the Jammu and Kashmir, Siachen Glacier, and Kharakoram Pass. How long can they keep us seperate? After all we look the same, we eat the same spice, we talk the same languages, ... we are the same people kept seperated by the wishes of the West. Brothers and Sisters of Pakistan, come join us in the journey to real properity. Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose during second world war formed the first Indian National Army (INA) to fight the British. Most of his Generals and top military commanders were Muslims. If Subhas Bose would be alive, there will be no India and Pakistan because British would have been forcibly friven out of South Asia by INA. Again, brothers and sisterts of Pakistan, come and join hands. United we, will show the world what we can do. A British Army officer (a Western mole in Kashmiri Hindu King’s military) led the Pakistani invasion of Kashmir in 1947 to make sure India, a socialist country (India) does not get a direct link with Communist Soviet Union. Ever since then Western countries have used Pakistan to disturb India. Pakistanis never understand that they are just beA British Army officer (a Western mole in Kashmiri Hindu King’s military) led the Pakistani invasion of Kashmir in 1947 to make sure India, a socialist country (India) does not get a direct link with Communist Soviet Union. Ever since then Western countries have used Pakistan to disturb India. Pakistanis never understand that they are just being used against the enemies of the West. Pakistan lost three battles one after the other using superior western arms, money, and advise. Still they donot understand. It is time to integrate our great nations back into integrated India (Hindutan) like it was before British invasion of India. It is time to be brothers and sisters. It is time to stop terror operations and being afraid of each other.
Siachen is not the issue. Pakistan must stop from being used to stop India, Soviets, and others. If East Germany and West Germany can unite to become one nation called Germany, India and Pakistan can also unite to become one nation called Hindustan/India.

As for Sicachen, India will soon build outsourcing copmputer centers in Siachen like in Bangalore. Pakistani and Indian software engineers will build next generation software for American and European companies companies. God willing, whether you call Allah or Vishnu or Shiva, days are not too far when South Asia will lead in software engineering, Bioengineering, and other high tech areas in the world. And who knows, the thrust may come from a unied India’s biggest pride the Jammu and Kashmir, Siachen Glacier, and Kharakoram Pass. How long can they keep us seperate? After all we look the same, we eat the same spice, we talk the same languages, … we are the same people kept seperated by the wishes of the West.

Brothers and Sisters of Pakistan, come join us in the journey to real prosperity. Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose during second world war formed the first Indian National Army (INA) to fight the British. Most of his Generals and top military commanders were Muslims. If Subhas Bose would be alive, there will be no India and Pakistan because British would have been forcibly driven out of united India by INA.

Again, brothers and sisterts of Pakistan, come and join hands. United we, will show the world what we can do.

Who care whose is Siachen. The whole of South Asia is ours. We the people, Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs, Buddishts… own this great land of Ashoka, Chanakya… Even Great Alexander the Great could not conqour us! We are one and only one.ing used against the enemies of the West. Pakistan lost three battles one after the other using superior western arms, money, and advise. Still they donot understand. It is time integrate our great nations back into integrated India (Hindutan) like it was before British invasion of India. It is time to be brothers and sisters. It is time to stop terror operations and being afraid of each other.
Siachen is not the issue. Pakistan must stop from being used to stop India, Soviets, and others. If East German and West Germany can unite to become one nation called Germany, India and Pakistan can also unite to become one nation called Hindustan/India.

As for Sicachen, India will soon build outsourcing copmputer centers in Siachen like in Bangalore. Pakistani and Indian software engineers will build next generation software for American and European companies companies. God willing, whether you call Allah or Vishnu or Shiva, days are not too far when South Asia will lead in software engineering, Bioengineering, and other high tech areas in the world. And who knows, the thrust may come from a unied India’s biggest pride the Jammu and Kashmir, Siachen Glacier, and Kharakoram Pass. How long can they keep us seperate? After all we look the same, we eat the same spice, we talk the same languages, … we are the same people kept seperated by the wishes of the West.

Brothers and Sisters of Pakistan, come join us in the journey to real properity. Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose during second world war formed the first Indian National Army (INA) to fight the British. Most of his Generals and top military commanders were Muslims. If Subhas Bose would be alive, there will be no India and Pakistan because British would have been forcibly friven out of South Asia by INA.

Again, brothers and sisterts of Pakistan, come and join hands. United we, will show the world what we can do.

]]> By: samuel lohri http://www.siachenglacier.com/siachen-glacier-is-well-inside-pakistani-territory/comment-page-1/#comment-7116 samuel lohri Sun, 23 May 2010 06:40:21 +0000 http://www.siachenglacier.com/siachen-glacier-is-well-inside-pakistani-territory/#comment-7116 A British Army officer (a Western mole in Kashmiri Hindu King's military) led the Pakistani invasion of Kashmir in 1947 to make sure India, a socialist country (India) does not get a direct link with Communist Soviet Union. Ever since then Western countries have used Pakistan to disturb India. Pakistanis never understand that they are just being used against the enemies of the West. Pakistan lost three battles one after the other using superior western arms, money, and advise. Still they donot understand. It is time integrate our great nations back into integrated India (Hindutan) like it was before British invasion of India. It is time to be brothers and sisters. It is time to stop terror operations and being afraid of each other. Siachen is not the issue. Pakistan must stop from being used to stop India, Soviets, and others. If East German and West Germany can unite to become one nation called Germany, India and Pakistan can also unite to become one nation called Hindustan/India. As for Sicachen, India will soon build outsourcing copmputer centers in Siachen like in Bangalore. Pakistani and Indian software engineers will build next generation software for American and European companies companies. God willing, whether you call Allah or Vishnu or Shiva, days are not too far when South Asia will lead in software engineering, Bioengineering, and other high tech areas in the world. And who knows, the thrust may come from a unied India's biggest pride the Jammu and Kashmir, Siachen Glacier, and Kharakoram Pass. How long can they keep us seperate? After all we look the same, we eat the same spice, we talk the same languages, ... we are the same people kept seperated by the wishes of the West. Brothers and Sisters of Pakistan, come join us in the journey to real properity. Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose during second world war formed the first Indian National Army (INA) to fight the British. Most of his Generals and top military commanders were Muslims. If Subhas Bose would be alive, there will be no India and Pakistan because British would have been forcibly friven out of South Asia by INA. Again, brothers and sisterts of Pakistan, come and join hands. United we, will show the world what we can do. A British Army officer (a Western mole in Kashmiri Hindu King’s military) led the Pakistani invasion of Kashmir in 1947 to make sure India, a socialist country (India) does not get a direct link with Communist Soviet Union. Ever since then Western countries have used Pakistan to disturb India. Pakistanis never understand that they are just being used against the enemies of the West. Pakistan lost three battles one after the other using superior western arms, money, and advise. Still they donot understand. It is time integrate our great nations back into integrated India (Hindutan) like it was before British invasion of India. It is time to be brothers and sisters. It is time to stop terror operations and being afraid of each other.
Siachen is not the issue. Pakistan must stop from being used to stop India, Soviets, and others. If East German and West Germany can unite to become one nation called Germany, India and Pakistan can also unite to become one nation called Hindustan/India.

As for Sicachen, India will soon build outsourcing copmputer centers in Siachen like in Bangalore. Pakistani and Indian software engineers will build next generation software for American and European companies companies. God willing, whether you call Allah or Vishnu or Shiva, days are not too far when South Asia will lead in software engineering, Bioengineering, and other high tech areas in the world. And who knows, the thrust may come from a unied India’s biggest pride the Jammu and Kashmir, Siachen Glacier, and Kharakoram Pass. How long can they keep us seperate? After all we look the same, we eat the same spice, we talk the same languages, … we are the same people kept seperated by the wishes of the West.

Brothers and Sisters of Pakistan, come join us in the journey to real properity. Netaji Subhas Chandra Bose during second world war formed the first Indian National Army (INA) to fight the British. Most of his Generals and top military commanders were Muslims. If Subhas Bose would be alive, there will be no India and Pakistan because British would have been forcibly friven out of South Asia by INA.

Again, brothers and sisterts of Pakistan, come and join hands. United we, will show the world what we can do.

]]> By: poornima http://www.siachenglacier.com/siachen-glacier-is-well-inside-pakistani-territory/comment-page-1/#comment-5946 poornima Tue, 18 May 2010 05:20:05 +0000 http://www.siachenglacier.com/siachen-glacier-is-well-inside-pakistani-territory/#comment-5946 and really hu cares where US and Japan gets their permit.. What is rightly ours is ours and really hu cares where US and Japan gets their permit.. What is rightly ours is ours

]]> By: poornima http://www.siachenglacier.com/siachen-glacier-is-well-inside-pakistani-territory/comment-page-1/#comment-5944 poornima Tue, 18 May 2010 05:19:15 +0000 http://www.siachenglacier.com/siachen-glacier-is-well-inside-pakistani-territory/#comment-5944 and really hu cares where US and Japan gets their permit.. What is ours is ours and really hu cares where US and Japan gets their permit.. What is ours is ours

]]> By: poornima http://www.siachenglacier.com/siachen-glacier-is-well-inside-pakistani-territory/comment-page-1/#comment-5943 poornima Tue, 18 May 2010 05:16:51 +0000 http://www.siachenglacier.com/siachen-glacier-is-well-inside-pakistani-territory/#comment-5943 I can simplify the emotions of Indians in a line. "We will not allow you to have an inch of our land". It is probably the stupidest thing to fight for a no mans land yet it is ours we fight for. We gave Pakistan we invited trouble for a lifetime .We will not succumb to u r brilliant fantasies.. Next try some other means of brain washing with u r so called "diplomatic" ideas. "The western Nations have in connivance with our corrupt Governments" If not for those governments we would have made a pulp of you all.. I can simplify the emotions of Indians in a line. “We will not allow you to have an inch of our land”. It is probably the stupidest thing to fight for a no mans land yet it is ours we fight for. We gave Pakistan we invited trouble for a lifetime .We will not succumb to u r brilliant fantasies.. Next try some other means of brain washing with u r so called “diplomatic” ideas. “The western Nations have in connivance with our corrupt Governments”
If not for those governments we would have made a pulp of you all..

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